The question on specialist rehabilitation
services for young Welsh patients begins at 15m 43s.
Rehabilitation Services
Gwasanaethau Adsefydlu
Q4 Rhodri Morgan: Will the Minister make
a statement on specialist rehabilitation services for young Welsh
patients? OAQ(3)1360(HSS)
C4 Rhodri Morgan:
A wnaiff y Gweinidog ddatganiad am wasanaethau adsefydlu arbenigol
ar gyfer cleifion ifanc Cymru? OAQ(3)1360(HSS)
Edwina Hart: I am committed to ensuring
that all young Welsh patients are able to access the specialist
rehabilitation services that they need.
Rhodri Morgan: I am grateful for that
answer. On specialist services for young patients who have suffered
a brain injury, could you confirm that Rookwood Hospital, in my
constituency, does not offer those services for anyone under 16 and
nor does any other hospital in Wales? When the, fortunately, small
number of young patients requiring brain injury rehabilitation are
offered services, it will frequently be at great expense in
hospitals such as Tadworth Court in Surrey at a cost of around
£250,000 a year for six months. If, therefore, as is currently the
case, two patients from Wales, or from south and mid Wales, require
such a service, and Health Commission Wales agrees to it, it will
cost £500,000 a year. However, setting up a service in Wales would,
at a deluxe level, probably cost a bit more than that at around
£600,000, but a basic service could be provided for less money, for
example, for £300,000 a year. Although it would obviously cost the
local health board money to set up the basic service, doing it could
save HCW and the NHS more money overall. What guidance would you
offer on this?
Edwina Hart: Health Commission Wales, as
an organisation, will not exist by 1 April 2010. We are now entering
new types of arrangements that will allow the LHBs to look at
specialist services commissioning together, with a small group
looking at the very specialised services. Obviously, we have to take
into account the numbers, which play an important part in this. We
never have any objections from parents or others, if they have to
travel to England to access specialist services, and especially if
those are the top specialist services available. We have considered
that the NHS could not provide services here because we did not seem
to have the mass in terms of expertise or the necessary
requirements. However, I am more than happy to take your point up in
the future to look at bringing services closer to home as long as
they are safe and effective.
William Graham: Following on from that,
you will know that there is a complete lack of treatment or
rehabilitation facilities in south-east Wales for young people with
an acquired brain injury. Could you, as a matter of urgency, request
proper talks with the local health board to ensure that it is at
least beginning to offer these people some hope, because, as you
know and as the former First Minister has commented, people with
those sorts of injuries have to travel long distances for such
treatment, which is distressing for them and for their families.
Edwina Hart: You have raised this issue
with me before. These issues that you and Rhodri Morgan have raised
today are worthy of consideration, and it is certainly something
that I will ask the local health boards to consider in relation to
the provision of services. As long as they are safe and effective
services, we need to look to them in the future.
Janet Ryder: Cognitive behavioural
therapy is sometimes offered to young people to help them recover
from mental health disorders in particular. I have a case in north
Wales where a constituent has been told that her condition needs to
stabilise before the therapy can be offered, and yet it would appear
that nothing is being offered to help her stabilise that condition.
How do we break into this vicious circle? This condition could have
serious consequences for her life if it is not stabilised, and yet,
no help will be offered to her unless she can control it of her own
volition.
1.50 p.m.
Edwina Hart: I do not think that I can
comment on the detail of this case.